{"id":220,"date":"2008-01-15T17:29:13","date_gmt":"2008-01-15T17:29:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/parkesy.wordpress.com\/2008\/01\/15\/initial-thoughts-on-cougar-information\/"},"modified":"2008-01-15T17:29:13","modified_gmt":"2008-01-15T17:29:13","slug":"initial-thoughts-on-cougar-information","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/andyparkes.co.uk\/blog\/index.php\/2008\/01\/15\/initial-thoughts-on-cougar-information\/","title":{"rendered":"Initial thoughts on Cougar information"},"content":{"rendered":"

Earlier this week Charles Van Heusen<\/a>\u00a0posted a bit of information about Cougar (SBS2008)<\/p>\n

The first part of the post talked about stuff\u00a0you probably already know about, i.e SBS2008 will be 64-bit only so no direct upgrade, etc\u00a0<\/p>\n

The second part talks about the changes that will be made to the standard and premium versions of SBS<\/p>\n

“The “premium edition” will include the same core products above, plus a new twist, a 2nd Windows Server 2008 Standard edition license, a flavor of SQL Server 2008, (which one has yet to be announced), as well as support for Virtualization”<\/em><\/p>\n

While this didn’t exactly come as a suprise I’ve been trying to decide in my head if i like the two servers option or not.<\/p>\n

In the past some people have been concerned about how many applications a single server is running and with a 4Gb limit i could in some ways understand this. But when we move to 64-bit wont this issue disappear? We’ll be able to stick as much RAM in as we like and with a coulpe of quad-core processors there would be nothing to worry about<\/p>\n

It also changes the way i’ll be positioning SBS as a solution to clients<\/p>\n

Most small business owners don’t really care about all the geek bits. They just want a “solution”<\/p>\n

So at the moment when i sell SBS as a solution i always put the premium edition forward<\/p>\n

Why?<\/p>\n

Well if I asked the client upfront, “do you need SQL Server?” most times i’d get a straight NO<\/p>\n

If i asked if the client would anticipate the need for a SQL Server as the company grows i’d still get a big fat\u00a0NO from them. In both cases if it meant not having the expense of a second\u00a0piece of “tin” it would definately be no.<\/p>\n

But\u00a0what normally happens is twelve months down the line they come running back as they want to start storing tons of documents in Sharepoint or they have a\u00a0new LOB application they need and they have been told they’ll need SQL Server<\/p>\n

That’s when i point out\u00a0that when the new server went in we pushed the premium edition and how i’ve saved a load of time, money and effort with a little forward thinking<\/p>\n

Also, very few of my SBS clients have more than one piece of server hardware. It’s hard enough getting them to\u00a0buy one new server!<\/p>\n

What i liked about SBS 2003 premium was the ability to give them pretty much everything they would need on a single piece of hardware (apart from a terminal server..but i’ve heard of some clever workarounds to implement that!) knowing that as the business grew we could simply add extra member servers to offload certain tasks<\/p>\n

I guess i can understand the benefits of having a second server for terminal services or for virtualisation but as David Mackie says<\/a>, would really want to run Virtualization, TS and SQL side-by-side<\/p>\n

So the way i currently see it\u00a0is that i’ll be\u00a0disappointed to “lose” SQL as we’ve used this with great success for SharePoint.<\/p>\n

Will there be some sort of upgrade path from standard to premium as the client’s business grows?<\/p>\n

There is still a way to go before we get to see SBS 2008 so a lot can still change though so i’m hoping for some big annoucement to make me smile again<\/p>\n

Thoughts?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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