{"id":274,"date":"2008-05-27T17:05:50","date_gmt":"2008-05-27T17:05:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/parkesy.wordpress.com\/2008\/05\/27\/misleading-sales-techniques-or-stupid-salesman\/"},"modified":"2008-05-27T17:05:50","modified_gmt":"2008-05-27T17:05:50","slug":"misleading-sales-techniques-or-stupid-salesman","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/andyparkes.co.uk\/blog\/index.php\/2008\/05\/27\/misleading-sales-techniques-or-stupid-salesman\/","title":{"rendered":"Misleading Sales Techniques or Stupid Salesman?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I had a very strange sales experience today<\/p>\n<p>The PC I have at home is starting to get a little bit long in the tooth so I decided it was time to treat myself to a new system<\/p>\n<p>I was looking for something a bit different from the usual Dell\/HP\/etc so wanted to use one of the many well known system builders here in the UK<\/p>\n<p>After lots of research I found exactly the system I wanted at the sort of price I wanted to pay<\/p>\n<p>I was about to place the order online when I noticed the web site ordering system wouldn&#8217;t let me choose which flavour of Vista I wanted. The system I&#8217;m ordering has 8GB of RAM so I needed the 64-bit version. <\/p>\n<p>The web site has one of those ever so helpful &#8220;live chat&#8221; facilities so I connected to one of their sales staff to ask some questions<\/p>\n<p>I was told that they don&#8217;t offer the 64-bit version of Windows as so many of their customers have had problems with it so they wouldn&#8217;t be able to support it<\/p>\n<p>So I had to ask<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">&#8220;But you&#8217;re selling a system that has 8GB of RAM? What is the point in selling it if you can&#8217;t use it all&#8221;<\/font><\/p>\n<p>A valid question I thought, what do you think the reply was?<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#008040\">&#8220;The systems we sell are <u>future proofed<\/u>&#8220;<\/font><\/p>\n<p>This took me back a little so I replied to say<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">&#8220;Ok but it doesn&#8217;t indicate that anywhere on your site?&#8221;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#008040\">&#8220;Why would we need to do that?&#8221;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#0000ff\">&#8220;Because if an average consumer paid for 8GB of RAM they would expect to be able to use all 8GB&#8221;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#008040\">&#8220;Intel and AMD sell chips that have 4 cores and are releasing chips with 8 and 12 cores. 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So am I being unreasonable in saying that if the PC can&#8217;t use 8GB the web site should indicate this?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not naming and shaming the company just yet as the price vs system spec is pretty good and they are a well respected PC builder here in the UK so it could just be that their sales staff aren&#8217;t as clued up as they should be and once I&#8217;ve figured out what I&#8217;m going to do about a 64-bit version I may still buy it and become a customer<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I had a very strange sales experience today The PC I have at home is starting to get a little bit long in the tooth so I decided it was time to treat myself to a new system I was looking for something a bit different from the usual Dell\/HP\/etc so wanted to use one<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"readmore\" href=\"https:\/\/andyparkes.co.uk\/blog\/index.php\/2008\/05\/27\/misleading-sales-techniques-or-stupid-salesman\/\"><span class=\"arrow-right icon\"><\/span>Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[49],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-274","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-stuff"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v20.11 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Misleading Sales Techniques or Stupid Salesman? 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