{"id":674,"date":"2010-03-05T21:10:22","date_gmt":"2010-03-05T21:10:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/andyparkes.co.uk\/blog\/index.php\/2010\/03\/05\/bye-bye-ebs\/"},"modified":"2010-03-05T21:10:22","modified_gmt":"2010-03-05T21:10:22","slug":"bye-bye-ebs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/andyparkes.co.uk\/blog\/index.php\/2010\/03\/05\/bye-bye-ebs\/","title":{"rendered":"Bye Bye EBS!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>You\u2019ve more than likely heard that Microsoft are ending development of EBS with immediate effect. If you browse to the website you\u2019ll see this<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/andyparkes.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/image.png\" rel=\"lightview\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; display: inline; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px\" title=\"image\" border=\"0\" alt=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/andyparkes.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/image_thumb.png\" width=\"516\" height=\"335\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>(eventually\u2026I got this and the regular product page randomly on each page load)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>There is also an an announcement on the official SBS blog<\/p>\n<h4><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.technet.com\/sbs\/archive\/2010\/03\/05\/new-it-trends-bring-change-to-mid-market-product-line.aspx\" class=\"broken_link\">\u201cNew IT Trends Bring Change to Mid-Market Product Line<\/a>\u201d<\/h4>\n<p>&#160;<\/p>\n<p>This didn\u2019t exactly come as a massive surprise. If you work in the SME market hands up who sold lots of EBS?<\/p>\n<p>When the product was initially announced it sounded like an interesting proposition but I had a few problems making it \u201cfit\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Comparisons to SBS are bound to happen so that\u2019s where I\u2019ll start!<\/p>\n<p>SBS works because it fits really well into a couple of scenarios that met a need for small businesses<\/p>\n<p><strong>New company, first network, first server<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Obvious really. New company, buying infrastructure to get started. Decides to do it right from the offset and goes for SBS <\/p>\n<p><strong>Existing company, existing network, first server<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A company that\u2019s grown and needs to go from that peer to peer network to their first server<\/p>\n<p><strong>Existing Company, existing network, replacement server<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You know the type. They\u2019re using a \u201cbeefed up&quot; PC as a central storage area for their files or they have been sold sold a more expensive &quot;big daddy\u201d Windows Server for sharing files and have no other functionality <\/p>\n<p><em>As a side note Windows Foundation with some hosted services thrown in could easily swap out for SBS depending on the size of the company<\/em><\/p>\n<p>So where in comparisons does EBS fit?<\/p>\n<p>That was my problem.<\/p>\n<p>Business that were generally large enough to look at EBS don\u2019t really fit any of the above<\/p>\n<p>New companies generally don\u2019t start out needing to support 50+ users straight away<\/p>\n<p>Existing companies that have grown to that size do so for a reason and they\u2019ve usually made their IT mistakes and got something in that fits well. Usually \u201cbig daddy\u201d Windows server but they pay enterprise prices because there isn\u2019t a product specifically for them. Hence the introduction of EBS!<\/p>\n<p>Since most existing companies like this generally have decent enough networks running it\u2019s difficult to justify ripping the whole thing out and starting again. <\/p>\n<p>So the other scenario I see is the businesses reaching the upper limits of SBS<\/p>\n<p>I actually have this exact scenario going on at the moment with one of my clients and have agonised over EBS vs the regular server products<\/p>\n<p>One of the issues I had was with the \u201cSecurity Server\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/andyparkes.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/image1.png\" rel=\"lightview\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; display: inline; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px\" title=\"image\" border=\"0\" alt=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/andyparkes.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/image_thumb1.png\" width=\"571\" height=\"326\" \/><\/a> <\/p>\n<p>The client in question had already made investments in protecting themselves at the gateway with a dedicated hardware firewall so had no need for Forefront Threat Management Gateway and were already covered by a message hygiene solution so no need for the Exchange Edge role so what exactly were they going to use this server for?<\/p>\n<p>If you are doing it the traditional way then it\u2019s a whole physical server you just don\u2019t need. 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